Sep 192015
That’s right, another special post on a non-blogging day (aye and on one of our special holidays, at that, ye scallywags)!
Last night, Capcom held a special Ace Attorney 6 stage show for TGS 2015. I didn’t watch it because it was entirely in Japanese… and the last time I tried that, I understood so little it was better to wait for the translation.
Anyway, the stage show included an extended trailer that revealed Apollo Justice as a returning character. Many people already gave up on seeing Apollo and Athena for some reason, so it’s good to have an early reveal.
But it’s more interesting than just Apollo’s return. In the trailer, he says:
“I’m fine! Even if Mr. Wright’s not here, I can fight! I have to win… even if that person is my opponent…!”
At first, I thought the line about Phoenix being “not here” meant Apollo might be handling cases back home, but the image shows him in the Kurain court. His reference to “that person,” however, has caused a great deal of speculation. Let’s take a look.
Coupled with Apollo’s statement, the silhouette at the end is likely the new prosecutor, much like the silhouetted glimpse of Blackquill in Dual Destinies trailers. But why would Apollo refer to “that person” as though they’re someone to be feared?
It’s a line clearly written to invite theories, and the final image only increases it.
The pink butterfly made some fans immediately think of a Kurain-related character with a butterfly motif, but while she’d definitely qualify for the sinister that person descriptor, it seems a stretch even for Capcom.
So, who else could this mysterious prosecutor be?
A user over at Court-Records brightened the image and traced it to get a clearer image. The result shows someone who is either bald, wearing a hat, or wearing a hood (personally, I think it looks like a hat), with their hand raised near the butterfly. Some sort of material seems to attach their hat to their wrist.
Here are some possibilities that have been suggested:
- Iris – This is an easy jump to make if you connect the motif to Dahlia, but there’s no reason for Apollo to give her such a sinister build-up. It also seems odd to make her a prosecutor…
- Maya – Why would they bring Maya back as a prosecutor? It would be an interesting twist… but I don’t see enough evidence to suggest it.
- Winston or Gaspen Payne – With a pink butterfly motif?
- Kristoph Gavin – It’s a stretch, but I can Kristoph symbolized by a butterfly. I can see his braid in the silhouette if I try hard enough. And I have absolutely no idea why the coolest defense in the west would be prosecuting. Maybe another member of the family, out for revenge against Apollo?
- Juniper Woods – If that’s a hat, it could conceivably be Juniper, except she was studying to be a judge, not a prosecutor.
- Robin Newman – Robin could return as a prosecutor, but I really don’t see the pink butterfly as a match.
- Thalassa – Well, this would definitely return to a loose end from Apollo Justice, but is even Capcom crazy enough to do something like this?
- Edgeworth – If he dresses like his father, there’s a case for it… but butterflies?
- von Karma’s granddaughter – A minor detail never played with in the Ace Attorney series is that Franziska has an older sister, who has a child – the granddaughter Manfred references in the first game. Given Ace Attorney ages, she’d be old enough to prosecute by AA6 and could follow in her grandfather’s footsteps.
- A brand new character – This is honestly the theory I lean toward the most. The quote is there to draw attention, and the character’s significance will be built up in the game rather than from the series’ past. It might just indicate that this will be a big challenge for Apollo.
Check out the new gameplay footage from the stage show helpfully compiled by a fan, and share your thoughts on Ace Attorney 6 and the mysterious prosecutor in the comments below. Let the speculation commence!
Voting brand new character.
Alternatively, Clay Terran zombie.
…I’ll stick with the new character theory.
Besides, Clay didn’t seem like a “pink/purple butterflies” kind of guy.
Being a zombie may change your thoughts on the world.
Is Godot considered a zombie?
If he is, then Viola Cadaverini might also qualify.
It’s clearly a Mask
it’s clearly a Mask☆DeMasque copy cat
At least from the image, the thing on the head being his trademark hat, which matches his from the images given in-game and might be considered a sinister person
As for the butterfly motif and why they’re a prosecutor, I got nothing, maybe he likes to show up to court in costume.
I mean they let Godot keep his mask and Von Karma her whip, this is not too far fetched in context of the AA universe
Interesting, I could see that being a Mask☆DeMasque-style costume.
how about Athena ?
Hmm, that could explain Apollo’s reaction, but why would Athena become a prosecutor?
easy during the time after dual destinies and this game, something could had happen ( besides I am a justicykes fan)
Ah, I see. Well, it’s possible! It would certainly clear up the concerns people have about trying to give all three attorneys enough screen time.
oh trust me the three will appear
I believe so too, although a lot of fans seem oddly pessimistic about it. First people were complaining that this was clearly going to be a game featuring only Phoenix… then once Apollo was revealed, people started talking about how Athena probably won’t show up. I don’t even know what makes them think that.
they will appear they have already appeared in games before unless capcom kill any of them, which they won´t, that would only bring more complains than solutions
I hope Blackquill gets at least a cameo appearance, too.
they always find a way to make them appear
I hope they do this time, too. 🙂
it has been confirmed that both Phoenix and Apollo the two playable characters, that this game will not only take place in japan and that we will face a porsecutor who has never lost
Yes, I saw that! Very interesting… especially since in the original reveal of Apollo, it looked like he was in Kurain along with Phoenix. I wonder how they’ll handle that?
Of course, a prosecutor who has never lost is nothing new for Ace Attorney. I wonder what THIS one will be like.
I’ve seen translations that say the undefeated prosecutor is Gaspen Payne, who became Kurain’s Chief Prosecutor.
probably for the first case, where Phoenix kick his ass, but after that we will see what happens, i still think tah is athena
Another possibility I saw someone mention is that Athena could go to Kurain with Phoenix to split the cases as Phoenix partnered with Athena in Kurain, then Apollo partnered with Trucy back home.
i doubt that, in both trailers we haven´t see Athena yet, clearly she would be next to Phoenix in court but we don´t see her in the tráiler, it´s a good reasoning, but I say they all go there in order to bring back Athena to the agency
The trailers and promotion for Dual Destinies didn’t show Apollo for a long time, though. It could be another situation like that.
Why would Athena go to Kurain?
Really ? i did not know that, i guess you are right about that, regardless as long as Athena appears and she has some protagonism i am good
I looked it up to try to get some dates. According to the wiki, the first Famitsu details and plot information for Dual Destinies came out in September 2012, but Apollo wasn’t confirmed until March 2013.
We’ll see! I definitely hope she returns in some way.
(Also, Blackquill cameo please!)
you know what will be great, that they reveal all that it hasnt been revelade yet, like Apollo´s mother or Athena´s father, in Apollo case we all know is Thalassa, as for Athena, i highly believe that is the phantom, it makes sense
You think Athena’s father is the phantom? But wouldn’t Metis have recognized his voice?
we are yalking about an spy with no emotions, not to mention that she probably abandon both metis and athena probably after athena was borned, for me is the only explanation and why would they bother in cover the phanton´s face after his breakdown id dual destinies
(It looks like I can’t continue the reply chain any further, so I’ll just write my reply here.)
Yes, but Metis is the one who analyzed his voice. Of all people, she should have been able to recognize it.
I assumed they hid the phantom’s face to keep the concept of him as a character who has no true identity–as he freaks out about how he doesn’t really know who he is. But who knows, maybe they have plans for him!
I hope they do, it would be awesome
I’d like to see Kristoph re-visited, as well.
nah, we have enough of him already, personally it would be a pain in the ass
Enough of him? But he’s only appeared in one game. xD I take it he’s not a favorite of yours?
well of course he is not my favourite, the bastard kill two inocents one, not to mention that he cause Phoenix to lose his bagde for 7 seven years, wh ocan like that guy ? besides you of course
Those are all reasons why he’s one of my favorite Ace Attorney villains.
Personally i don´t have any favourite villains, they all are evil and suck, here a list of why
Manfred von Karma: forge evidence over 40 years and kill Edgeworth father
Matt Engarde: hire a killer and kidnapped Maya and betray Phoenix
Dalia Hawtrone: BITCH BITCH BITCH
Kristoph Gavin: Evil that only cares about himself and he is a dick
Phantom: kill his wife ( i still believe that he is Athena father) kill clay and is emotionless moron
See, I love villains. Villains can make or break a story for me. Whether they’re so evil I want to see them dead, sympathetic enough I wish they could be redeemed, or just fascinating characters, I love a good villain.
well, regardless of that, it´s gonna be difficult for capcom to come up with a new villain for AA6, it ahs to be something that surpass the former villains
True, but I have faith in them. 😀 People probably said the same thing after T&T.
what we havent considered is that the mysterious figure apollo is facin could be Klavier, i mean he is his rival in Apollo Justice Ace Attorney
Or could be Von Karma’s granddaughter,
She’d be around 17 in-universe now
That’s true. Hmm, the lost von Karma characters. That would be a nice touch, bringing in characters we know exist but have never seen.
Yeah, but why would Apollo be concerned about facing Klavier alone? He’s the least threatening of all the prosecutors.
I’ve seen several people suggest Klavier might remain in a cameo role and Apollo will face Blackquill.
but a buttefly for blackquill ?
Oh, I don’t think anyone thinks the silhouetted prosecutor is Blackquill, but rather that Blackquill will be the normal prosecutor for Japanifornia sections, and the mysterious person is either 1) a final prosecutor Apollo faces, or 2) the prosecutor Phoenix faces and the trailer lied.
You mean that capcom people are making us wasting our time on theories that are not porbably for Apollo but rather Phoenix ? they are evil
Someone mentioned a similar bait-and-switch trailer for Dual Destinies, but I don’t remember what it was.
Nevertheless, it would be good if capcom told us already who this figure is
Yeah. xD
Although a little mystery is fine by me. 🙂
not for me, but all right
Well, I mean, think about the surprise when Edgeworth showed up in Trials & Tribulations, for example.
i was more surpised when we play with him as a defense attorney, but not so much for him appearing
True enough, it could have been anticipated. I’m just saying, they could reveal the silhouetted figure in an excellent way in-game. Still, I bet they will beforehand, like with Blackquill.
As much it discust me to amit, the more theories I saw, the less probalbe seeems to Athena to be a protagonist
Why do you say that?
I don´t know, so far she hasn´t been confirmed and i heard that a lot of people didn´t like her a lot in dual destinies, so guess it must be that
True, but the same could be said for Apollo before Dual Destinies (though he seems pretty popular now). I find it hard to believe they’d completely drop her… though maybe they’d reduce her to a cameo role.
I would only aceppt it when i see it, until then i will hope for the best
Same. 🙂 I’ve loved every Ace Attorney game so far, so I have faith in this one too.
Oh yes, Athena has been confirmed
Yes, I saw that this morning. Excellent news!
this is definitely the news that made my day
Since the sign behind Athena in the announcement screenshot looks like an advertisement for one of Trucy’s shows, I bet Athena is staying behind with Apollo.
probably, good for trucy, she gets her own show, nut the question remains, why is Apollo in Kurain then ?
Hmm… maybe something happens to Phoenix near the end of the game, and Apollo has to travel to Kurain to help? They already confirmed Apollo will be back home, so either the clip of him in Kurain was misdirection, or he’ll need to travel there for some reason.
Maybe, all we need to know is who that prosecutor that is shown in the tráiler is and we will have some answers
Yeah! I wonder when they’ll reveal the prosecutor… maybe the next time they release a trailer.
Now that I think about it, since they show that mini trucy image in the backscreen of Athena, woudln´t be funny if they made Trucy a prosecutor ?
That would be funny. Magician and prosecutor. Well, Klavier is proof you can be in show business and prosecute at the same time…
do you think will get to play with the trio or only Phoenix and Apollo ?
I’d be surprised if Athena wasn’t playable, since all three were playable in Dual Destinies. Personally, I hope they add more cases, now that there are three attorneys. What do you think?
more cases could be good, but they have to be careful, because that can get boring if the cases are not good enough, maybe 6 cases since this is the 6 game of the original saga
Too many “filler” cases would be bad, but more cases might work especially since they have two locations to move between, too. Dual Destinies technically had 6 cases, because of the DLC case. Maybe this one could have 6 regular cases and then another DLC case.
Instead of talking about cases, we should ask ourselves:
We are going to have a crazy witness? (animal or robot)
Good point, haha. There haven’t really been TOO many of those, though. The infamous parrot scene, the whale, the robot… were there any others?
the spirit of dahlia that possesed maya on Trials and Tribulations and the walkie talkie on Justice for All and the other parrot in PL VS PW
Oh right. I guess it is pretty much a tradition now. XD Kurain could get pretty crazy, with that water mirror.
Do you think that since Apoollo said in the trailer that Phoenix was not there, you think that at some point Phoenix is going to die ?
Dying might be a little extreme, especially since he’s such a popular and important character. It seems more likely to me that something would happen to put him out of commission for that case (like the first trial section of T&T case 5).
Do you think they’d be willing to kill Phoenix?
Considering that many people think (not me of course) that in AA5 he was not much of a protagonist, except in the lasta case and that is Apollo who should be the new main character, then I guees Phoenix would end soom
Of course, Takumi wanted to end Phoenix’s story with the trilogy and not involve him in Apollo Justice. This game might give a good indication of the direction the series will take from here…
what do you mean ?
I mean, if Phoenix is still a major star of the game and nothing in the ending suggests he’s stepping aside, that’s probably a sign he’ll continue to star. If, however, AA6 eventually passes the torch to Apollo and Athena, it’ll suggest Phoenix won’t be as important in future games.
No, Phoenix would always be the superstar, I mean withou him, Athena would. Have been convicted for a crime she never did, he save people klife and he would do it again, because even thought he is 35 and the boss of his own agency, he still has that golden heart of a child with all his goofiness
True, but I worry they might run out of things to do with him if they keep making him the central character. They even said the reason he’s going to Kurain in this game is because they didn’t think his own country had anything challenging enough for him at this point.
I don´t care which country or planet, as long as he is a main, that is fine by me
So if Phoenix died or retired or something in AA6, you’d be displeased?
Well, who wouldn´t ? Call me crazy and pretty sure you would, but whenever i see Phoenix fighting for his friends or his objection theme, I feel better with myself for some reason, I mean, the guy has survived everything
True. I’m a fan of Phoenix, too. I just know the idea of him stepping down has been mentioned a lot.
Well, they shouldn´t, he is a hero, while Apollo is a dick and Athena, while I do like her, she is too unexpirienced
You don’t like Apollo?
Well, he is my least favourite character, not only because of Dual Destinies, but even vefore that, he is too arrogant sometimes and a bit of a killer mood, but i do like his objection theme
Hmm, I see. I enjoy the contrast between Apollo and Phoenix. And I have to admit, I like how Apollo occasionally shows traces of Kristoph’s influence. Kristoph was his mentor, after all.
I know, when I saw Apollo in dual destinies imitating kristoph, i wanted to punch him
I loved it, hahaha. I love the little callbacks like that. Just like how young Edgeworth in T&T’s flashback case has some of von Karma’s mannerisms.
Speaking of prosecutors, who fo you think is the figure of the trailer ?
I’m still not convinced it isn’t just a new character they just wanted to hype up as intimidating.
Yeah and since there are not any shows or events program, all we can do is wait
Yeah. Hopefully they won’t keep us in suspense for too long!
Merry christmas, i wish you the best
Thanks! Merry Christmas to you as well!
http://forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=31737
check this out
Yes, I saw that! Interesting… so it’s a new character after all. What do you think of the “Funeral Prosecutor”?
well, i heard he/she (we don´t know the gender yet) ahs a new Word, like Blackquill with his silence, he has something that can be translated as a do you undernstand, and wonder how does he/she knows apollo, what do you think ?
Ah yes, I saw that they have their own word.
Hmm… I feel as though maybe Apollo will only be familiar with them, maybe from Phoenix’s dealings in Japan, or maybe this is another famous prosecutor.
Also, have you seen the questions/theories about the “green Gramarye”? One of the screenshots shows a poster for Troupe Gramarye that includes someone dressed in green.
I think that is just simply a random person, there is no way that could be i dont know apollos father
Some people are theorizing that.
I think the problem is why would the artist put that there? The poster shows Magnifi, Zak, Valant, Thalassa… and someone in green. It implies a fifth person in the act. Since Troupe Gramarye already exists in canon with four members, adding a fifth feels like an odd decision unless it’s important.
Yes, you are right, odds are that the truth about trucy and apollo would be reveal, and so far, what do you thibk of the new prosecutor, do you think he/she is a villain ?
That would be good. It would be nice to wrap up the final loose ends from Apollo Justice.
To me, the new prosecutor’s goals sound noble enough–convicting the guilty as justice for their victims–although “Funeral Prosecutor” certainly sounds intimidating. I can’t see this character as a villain so much as a prosecutor like AA1 Edgeworth, going to extreme measures with good intentions.
What do you think?
Yeah, i agree with you, he/she seems like a kurain kingdom of edgeworth and i wonder what he would throw at. Us (like cofee, whip or a hawk)
Haha, yes. It will certainly be interesting to see what this prosecutor’s defining trait is.
And it seems as though we might have a second prosecutor in Kurain, which could be interesting.
they say that this prosecutor can chanel spirits, maybe he/she is an spirit itself and can be anywhere
That would be interesting… although even for Ace Attorney, that might stretch suspension of disbelief a little far.
(Then again, they considered having an immortal prosecutor at one point…)
wait, seriously? they had ?
wait, seriously? they had considered that ?
Yeah, let me find it… although I guess it wasn’t considered too seriously, but it still made the list of possibilities.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/zeroobjections/blog/2013/10/10/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-dual-destinies-localization-the-many-demands-of-an-ambitious-scenario-director
“I knew that I wanted Blackquill to be a very formidable opponent, so I brainstormed some different ways in which he could be just that. Looking back on my notes, I had a few amazing duds like:
-An IMMORTAL PROSECUTOR who is 200 years old!
-A SUPER-RICH PROSECUTOR who could buy off any and every witness!
So, um, yeah. I mean, either one of these guys sounds like they would be super-tough to beat, but they’re also not exactly Ace Attorney-like, are they…? Which is exactly why they were scrapped.”
Yeah, that is not what ace attorney prosecutors should be like, they are supose to be sarcastic and sometimes real bad, but they have their reasons for being like that and did you see the mood matrix is back as well
Then there’s Klavier, who stands out among prosecutors by being fairly nice.
I did see! I’m glad, although I hope they make the Mood Matrix slightly more intuitive (though since you weren’t penalized for incorrect Mood Matrix selections, it wasn’t bad).
What i want is harder cases, DD was really easy
Definitely. They need to find a middle ground between the original trilogy’s occasional descent into “time to try every piece of evidence to find their leap in logic” and Dual Destinies’ style.
yeah, present every piece of evidence, get penalties and reset the game to try again,
Exactly! A nice middle ground is just what we need.
Maybe the originals’ level of difficulty, but with a hint system? I liked how the crossover incorporated hint coins into trials.
I also wonder if trucy is going to be the defendant in the case ?
It’s possible, since it seems like they’re interviewing Mimi as a potential witness. Or maybe the mysterious green Gramarye is the defendant.
But now that i thibk about it, this game seems more focuse on. Apollo, so my question is, why ia it call Phoenix Wright ? Not that i dont mind
Well, it seems like it’ll be split between Phoenix in Kurain and Apollo back home, so they might split the screen-time 50/50. We haven’t seen enough to indicate it’ll be more Apollo than Phoenix.
But also, there’s a theory that Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney sold worse than the others because Phoenix’s name wasn’t on it. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it would explain why Dual Destinies and this one (though do we have a confirmed title yet?) would still begin with “Phoenix Wright.”
What do you thibk the title for AA6 would be like ?
Hmm… I have no idea. I have a hard enough time coming up with titles for my own stories, let alone predicting titles!
What do you think?
Well, sice apollo in the tariler says that Phoenix is not there, how about Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Last Trial ?
That makes it sound like Phoenix might die or give up a lawyer. Do you think this is the end for him?
Maybe, i mean, what other reason would apollo have to said that ? Besides, you can never kill a phoenix, they rise from the ashes
I thought he said it because Phoenix is in Kurain while Apollo is at home. It did look like the Kurain courtroom, but that might have been just for the trailer.
Nah, something bigger is definitely awaiting us in AA6, something that would makes us cry and have heart attacks
Definitely possible, considering how the first trilogy concluded.
Do you thin we will see maya in AAH 6 ?
Yes. Since Kurain and spirit channeling is involved, I’d be more surprised if she wasn’t in the game.
but the million dollar question is, why Maya never metioned this country before? if is also has spirit chanelling and stuff
Retcon!
For an in-universe explanation…
Maya: *shocked* You’ve never heard of the Kingdom of Kurain, Nick? I thought everyone knew about that!
Actually, there was a theory that there was some sort of schism between the kingdom and Kurain Village, so maybe they don’t like to talk about it.
Maybe Phoenix and Maya would ended up together, if you had seen all the fanficition
Hmm, I’m not sure Capcom will ever do that. They seem content to hint at potential romance but never follow up on it, probably to keep more people happy.
Way to kill my mood, by the way, did you change the colors of t this article or something ?
Sorry about killing your mood. xD
Yes, I did. Some people had trouble reading the white-on-black text, especially with smaller screens, so I changed the background color for posts. What do you think? (I know the link colors still need adjustments.)
Yeah, it is better, good job
Great!
I think the comment boxes could still use work, though…
nah, they are fine by me, but it´s your choice
I’ll probably adjust it at least a little, to make it clash less. 🙂
I just read that Capcom in march 6th they will reveal the date for AA6 (at least in japan) and they would also reveal a secret character
Yep, I saw that this morning! I bet the character is Maya.
Mostly and i also read that they would show some footage of the game system (probably in court)
I wonder if they’ll show Phoenix in court, Apollo, or both.
you eman like a doble objection like Phoenix and profesor layton ?
No, I mean like showing us gameplay in both locations.
ohh, yeah, they would reveal some gameplay that is for sure but what would be maya rol in this game ?
I think she’ll probably be Phoenix’s assistant, unless the boy in the first case is his assistant this time.
as far as I know, that boy is Phoenix new partner, meaning that maya would have an entire different rol
Hmm, I wonder what it would be. Then again, they could take turns as assistant, like Maya and Pearl in some of the trilogy cases.
knowing AA, we can be sure that Maya is going to be a defendant in one case
It’s practically a tradition!
How many cases do you think the game will have?
At least 5, taht is for sure, maybe 6 and perhaps a dlc case like DD
I’d like to see 6 regular cases and a DLC case.
Probably two for kurain, two for japanifornia, one and thas has to do with the ast and the last oone is involved with that past event
Yes, that makes sense. I’d also been thinking three for Phoenix and three for Apollo (unless Athena will head up a case, too).
I hope so, but probably not, so far the playable characters are Phoenix and Apollo
True, but they haven’t said she isn’t playable, either.
but everything points out so far that she wouldn´t and I Heard some rumors about a case that it would involved the new prosecutor and Kristoph
That would be interesting. I’d love to see Kristoph return.
I also read about gumshoe with abeard and Emma coming back too
That would be interesting, haha. I don’t think there’s much basis for some of the rumors, though, just fans speculating.
did you check the trailers ?
I haven’t seen the trailers yet, but I saw some screenshots of Maya and information about the other characters. I’ll probably write a new blog post soon about it.
http://game.capcom.com/gyakutensaiban/6/trial_play/
this is a demo of the game, obviously in japanese, but I manage to solve it
I wonder if they’ll release an English demo eventually, too. I hope so.
but we have Maya back, also Klavier and Edgeworth, but in bonus episodes aparently, like in PL VS PW
I heard the bonus episodes have investigations and cross-examinations, so they sound like they have more content than the PLvPW episodes.
I hope they’re available when the game is localized, too.
but since the game comes out in june only for japan, god knows when is coming here
True. Optimistically, I’d say by the end of the year.
but I bet taht all fan that are not in japan want that special edition, which includes a lot of things, hope we get to ordered as well
Oh yeah, I’d love the special edition. I don’t think the Ace Attorney special editions have ever been released outside of Japan, though.
I wonder if this game will be physical here, or digital-only like Dual Destinies.
I wrote a new post going through the latest information: http://www.samanthalienhard.com/2016/03/ace-attorney-6-cover-art-returning-characters.html
I think the secret character is Kay Faraday because earlier you mentioned it is wearing an hat, it could be Faraday’s long hair. Also pink is Kay’s iconic colour. Kay can be prosecutor since she is inspired to do it as she worked under Edgeworth before. I think how Apollo addressed her is not fear, but disappointment as Kay and Apollo could be really close friends and Apollo hates facing her in court. That my theory for now!
Interesting theory, but the silhouette has been revealed to be the new prosecutor, Nayuta (unless you think that’s a ruse and there’s another secret prosecutor).